tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post1037797895971643317..comments2024-03-22T21:58:18.933+00:00Comments on ShukerNature: TRAILING THE MITLA – A DOG-LIKE CAT, OR A CAT-LIKE DOG?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15628598508836601012noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-63237610067244225102023-07-18T16:51:31.041+01:002023-07-18T16:51:31.041+01:00В Африканской Гвинее есть сообщение о Тайре , кото...В Африканской Гвинее есть сообщение о Тайре , которая живёт в Гвинее . Были изображение и сообщение о Тайре которые живут в Африканской Гвинее . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-37012710722080299282014-11-20T03:14:04.339+00:002014-11-20T03:14:04.339+00:00Hi John,
Many thanks for your photo, which I'...Hi John,<br /> <br />Many thanks for your photo, which I've been perusing with great interest. Your photo is clear enough for me to be able to identify its animal positively. It is a tayra Eira barbara. Here is a link to this mustelid species, with a photo of one (the top photo) that is virtually identical to your specimen:<br /> <br />http://www.factzoo.com/mammals/tayra-clever-weasel-eats-whatever.html<br /> <br />Tayras are usually large and black but with a yellow chest patch; the head becomes greyer in older specimens. There is also a very attractive cream variety, though still belonging to the same single species.<br /> <br />Although they are sizeable creatures and well known to the locals in their habitat, they are not very well known outside South America, so I can well understand why seeing one came as such a surprise.<br /> <br />Thank you most sincerely once again for kindly sharing with me your photo of this superb animal, whose species is one that in my ShukerNature blog on the mitla I nominated as a possible explanation for the latter cryptid.<br /> <br />All the best, KarlDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-6735430352840317602014-11-20T03:01:27.307+00:002014-11-20T03:01:27.307+00:00Sure, it should be in your mailbox now.Sure, it should be in your mailbox now.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236133418093009451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-54727607960450420612014-11-20T02:30:30.463+00:002014-11-20T02:30:30.463+00:00Sure, send me your e-mailSure, send me your e-mailJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236133418093009451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-64677444837179896282014-11-20T02:26:51.236+00:002014-11-20T02:26:51.236+00:00Hi John, Sounds very interesting? Is there any cha...Hi John, Sounds very interesting? Is there any chance that you could email me a copy of your photo to look at? It'd be great to have the opportunity to see the creature. Thanks a lot, KarlDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-26918778475226979312014-11-20T02:19:57.827+00:002014-11-20T02:19:57.827+00:00I just photographed this mammal, I believe, on the...I just photographed this mammal, I believe, on the Rio Nangaritza in the Podocarpus National Forest in Ecuador on 11/18/14. It is a poor shot. johndrawe@hotmail.com. The locals call it Amingo.He said it swims like a dog and can fight 4 dogs at once and steals chickens. Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236133418093009451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-11739596935236132912013-03-01T12:53:40.476+00:002013-03-01T12:53:40.476+00:00I would like to add that this animal is known as G...I would like to add that this animal is known as Glawackus in North America and its description made me think of yours in a convincing way :<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlawackusBosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-43621486767699839032013-03-01T10:04:28.737+00:002013-03-01T10:04:28.737+00:00Oh...I see. I inadvertently skipped the size . Loo...Oh...I see. I inadvertently skipped the size . Looks something similar then to France's Beast of Gévaudan or Beast of Dartmoor, the former was given the scientific name Lycopardus, which translates to "wolf-panther".I don't see any other possible candidate.Bosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-34526195634664445642013-03-01T02:18:11.957+00:002013-03-01T02:18:11.957+00:00No, this animal was about the size of a cougar.
...No, this animal was about the size of a cougar. <br /><br />The Ahuizotl is an interesting creature though. Lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-86086975221083230732013-02-28T11:05:02.013+00:002013-02-28T11:05:02.013+00:00Thanks. Well I was thinking about the Mexican Ahui...Thanks. Well I was thinking about the Mexican Ahuizotl, a supposedly legendary creature from the Aztec mythology, do you think it fits quite well ?<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahuizotl_(creature)<br />Bosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-60762069891698958162013-02-27T20:14:59.248+00:002013-02-27T20:14:59.248+00:00Maybe ponds or stock tanks in the area. The Texas ...Maybe ponds or stock tanks in the area. The Texas Panhandle is semiarid, no forests, just rolling grass land and canyons. Lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-55060876301173021362013-02-25T10:28:59.414+00:002013-02-25T10:28:59.414+00:00Interesting, Les. I think I know what you've s...Interesting, Les. I think I know what you've seen. Is there any body of water near your sighting ? It sounds like a cryptid.Bosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-90142856325358199252013-02-24T17:12:45.066+00:002013-02-24T17:12:45.066+00:00Tamara, Thank you for your suggestions it was defi...Tamara, Thank you for your suggestions it was definitely neither of those. The creature we saw carried its head up like a dog and had a straight back unlike the coati. It was dog/coyote in the front and cat in the back. Maybe it was just an extraordinarily long-tailed dog with a really smooth gait. <br /><br />Also, Amarillo is in the Texas Panhandle. We get less than 14 inches of precipitation a year. Lesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-69989288912182069032013-02-23T20:01:58.168+00:002013-02-23T20:01:58.168+00:00Hi Tamara, Thanks for your interesting comments. R...Hi Tamara, Thanks for your interesting comments. Re the mitla's short tail: this feature was not given in Fawcett's own description of it, it only featured in relation to the alleged mitla skin obtained by Ivan Sanderson, which may, or may not, have been an actual mitla skin. Also, I hate to say it but I do worry somewhat about Sanderson's extraordinary ability to encounter (at least according to his own claims) living specimens of unknown species (e.g. olitiau, an unidentified giant Cameroon bat; an African living dinosaur; a giant pink salamander on his own farm in North America; a fish that could make itself invisible in Trinidad) and skins or dead specimens of unknown animals(e.g. Bolivian mitla; Mexican ruffed cat; Minnesota iceman). If all of these claims were true, it would make him the most successful cryptozoologist of all time, yet they all share a common fundamental feature - there is no physical evidence to support any of them. Even skins that he claims to have obtained are always mysteriously lost (ruffed cat) or subsequently unaccounted for (mitla). So I tend to view his claims of such encounters with some scepticism. As for a melanistic bobcat as the mitla's identity: the most southerly extent of the bobcat's known distribution is only northern Mexico, so for any strain of bobcat to be existing so much further south as Bolivia yet without any specimens recorded from anywhere in the intervening region (i.e. anywhere throughout Central America or northern South America) seems rather unlikely. Hence I still favour a canine identity for it, and one with a normal tail (note that Jeremy Mallinson's flashcard of a mitla includes a normal rather than shortened tail too). All the best, KarlDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-69164426266827095432013-02-23T02:45:05.211+00:002013-02-23T02:45:05.211+00:00Le, your description of the animal you saw in Texa...Le, your description of the animal you saw in Texas sounds like a coatimundi or perhaps a cacomistle ('ring-tailed cat', though my money is on the coati as it sometimes lacks a mask. Neither of these animals are cats or dogs but unusual members of the raccoon family.<br /><br />Karl, the mitla description you gave stated that it had a short tail, something none of your candidates have. If it was found further north I would say it was simply the bobcat. Some bobcats in Florida are black and have unusually long dog-like (or serval-like) legs. As it is it's a mystery, unless science has overlooked a tropical subspecies of bobcatTamara Hensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11547216895449679019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-3409028661250881212013-02-22T21:18:57.254+00:002013-02-22T21:18:57.254+00:00Your description of a mitla reminds me of a creatu...Your description of a mitla reminds me of a creature my brother and I saw in Amarillo, TX about 6 years ago. His apartment complex is near the edge of town where there are cow pastures being cleared for development. We were pulling out of his parking lot when I saw this very weird dog like creature. It looked like a dog or coyote on the front end but the tail was felid about the length a mountain lions tail would be in proportion to the body. It carried the tail low to the ground with the tip curved up exactly like a mountain lion. The tail wasn't bushy like the zorro's tail. The ears stood up like a coyotes. I asked my brother if he had seen it and he did. We agreed it was not like anything we had ever seen before. The creature trotted into a space between two buildings but was gone by the time we drove by. I think it moved more like a felid than a canid but I was so shocked by its appearance that I don't clearly remember how it moved. It had to have either jumped over a seven foot picket fence or gone under the fence to get out of the area it ran into. <br /><br />I can't describe much else to you but I've always wondered about the animal. Lesnoreply@blogger.com