tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post1140077482379512947..comments2024-03-22T21:58:18.933+00:00Comments on ShukerNature: THE PARTRIDGE CREEK MONSTER - A LIVING DINOSAUR IN THE YUKON?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15628598508836601012noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-67557891796666761642017-06-04T06:52:18.819+01:002017-06-04T06:52:18.819+01:00Flightless Ravens, Giant Beaver Eaters, & ca...Flightless Ravens, Giant Beaver Eaters, & carnivorous dinosaurs ah to take a film crew to the Yukon.NorthsideRastahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03741081714136423378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-21592339075746763392014-07-31T08:22:24.774+01:002014-07-31T08:22:24.774+01:00It really doesn't.. especially the supposed le...It really doesn't.. especially the supposed letter from the priest describing the beast as "racing at great speed" at a time when even the most educated still thought of all dinosaurs as slow, lumbering, barely mobile beasts. Absentia Xuicoatlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05455405796737665714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-90374657427209820782014-07-31T08:16:50.590+01:002014-07-31T08:16:50.590+01:00More of a comment on the other comments than the a...More of a comment on the other comments than the article, but, people above have mentioned the account saying the creature "dragged it's tail"... nowhere in the account did it elude to tail dragging, the only mention of the tail was in a description of a body imprint in the bank of the river as if the creature had settled down into the mud as crocodiles and alligators tend to do.Absentia Xuicoatlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05455405796737665714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-21809388376805371912014-06-19T01:26:02.562+01:002014-06-19T01:26:02.562+01:00Yes, this was a yarn that was printed time and aga...Yes, this was a yarn that was printed time and again in the US newspapers till as late as two decades after its initial publication.<br /><br />I have 31 clippings of this account, published in various newspapers in various years, from 1908 to the 1920's.<br /><br />The details never waiver, the story just gets reprinted over and over again.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />Theotheo paijmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17890509406570628152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-87475948852937570552014-06-19T00:54:56.306+01:002014-06-19T00:54:56.306+01:00If dinosaur feathers were like emu feathers, then ...If dinosaur feathers were like emu feathers, then they might look like hair from a distance. Some feathers are outright bristle-like even on some birds. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09127945598591929729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-75939716155442828642014-06-17T13:33:09.821+01:002014-06-17T13:33:09.821+01:00Cheers Mark, glad you like it. Re this particular ...Cheers Mark, glad you like it. Re this particular case: no doubt about it, this was assuredly a hoax,, but at the time that I first documented it, in 1995 within my Prehistoric Survivors book, it was all but unknown within the cryptozoological community, so it definitely deserved an airing, if only to see if it elicited any additional reports or documentation - which, apart from a brief Notes & Queries report basically asking the same thing, it didn't. During the early 1900s, many magazines and newspapers seemed perfectly happy to fill gaps with sensationalised fiction portrayed as fact, and this is clearly one such example, but entertaining nonetheless, which was, I suppose, its primary purpose anyway. All the best, KarlDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-75619493647330517892014-06-17T13:25:57.372+01:002014-06-17T13:25:57.372+01:00Leaving mistaken identity, hoax or an animal. What...Leaving mistaken identity, hoax or an animal. What is your take on this Karl? (And everybody else too) <br /><br />Incidentally I really like this blog, some good stuff going on. Keep goingSir Percy Ware-Armitagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981711781493536066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-21566047558385393392014-06-17T13:22:40.491+01:002014-06-17T13:22:40.491+01:00OK I don't believe this was a dinosaur for obv...OK I don't believe this was a dinosaur for obvious reasons and irrespective of the fact of coelacanths aSir Percy Ware-Armitagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981711781493536066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-58465119227828055882014-06-16T21:58:02.800+01:002014-06-16T21:58:02.800+01:00The "grey-black bristles" were primitive...The "grey-black bristles" were primitive feathers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-17724141639056330702014-06-15T18:14:50.196+01:002014-06-15T18:14:50.196+01:00However, the whole point is that I didn't clai...However, the whole point is that I didn't claim that Ceratosaurus and Tyrannosaurus were "closely related", merely that they were related, which they are. Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-67214315000281375632014-06-15T09:41:26.644+01:002014-06-15T09:41:26.644+01:00Yes, I had to choose a close related animal, for e...Yes, I had to choose a close related animal, for example golden jackal and whale or human, not marsupial, my mistake. I just want to corrected your claim that ceratosaurus and tyrannosaurus are closely related - they didn´t. Velociraptor and tyrannosaurus, or pidgeon and tyrannosaurus are more closely related than tyrannosaurus and ceratosaurus, and both are completelly different animal. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00523151757801957942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-68557846760310261142014-06-15T00:59:32.309+01:002014-06-15T00:59:32.309+01:00Yes, I am aware of all this. But your original com...Yes, I am aware of all this. But your original comparison did not involve birds, it involved your incorrect claim that wombats and jackals were as closely related to one another as Ceratosaurus was to Tyrannosaurus, a mistake on your part that I corrected.<br />Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-50235505651971929462014-06-14T23:54:18.985+01:002014-06-14T23:54:18.985+01:00Birds belong to suborder theropoda, too... :) Cera...Birds belong to suborder theropoda, too... :) Ceratosaurus is ceratosaurians. Scientific definition of ceratosaurian is:´Ceratosaurs are members of a group of theropod dinosaurs defined as all theropods sharing a more recent common ancestry with Ceratosaurus than with birds.´ Tyrannosaurus is maniraptoran, the group where birds belong, closely related to pidgeon than ceratosaurus. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00523151757801957942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-32209847046907658962014-06-14T04:59:32.334+01:002014-06-14T04:59:32.334+01:00My apologies, I was working off of outdated source...My apologies, I was working off of outdated sources, which is all too easy considering how quickly the field of palaeontology moves :)The Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01334704612432869150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-50203882632735038392014-06-13T23:43:43.552+01:002014-06-13T23:43:43.552+01:00I like that the creature was covered in course hai...I like that the creature was covered in course hairs, which remind one of the proto-feathers some dinosaurs are claimed to have, but are strikingly unlike what a person in the early twentieth century would expect a prehistoric reptile to have. But everything said about the posture seems correct. That view of theropods has changed, and betrays the age in which the report was recorded.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990564432778690216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-4676360401307150272014-06-13T22:28:36.049+01:002014-06-13T22:28:36.049+01:00It wasn't an endothermic dinosaur per se that ...It wasn't an endothermic dinosaur per se that I considered unlikely, but an endothermic hairy dinosaur, bearing in mind that we now know that they would be more likely to have been feathered. Also, you are a little out of date re claiming that dinosaurs may have been even more endothermic than mammals - on the contrary, the most recent view is that they were mesothermic: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27794723 12 June 2014.Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-2921163852513852112014-06-13T22:20:38.736+01:002014-06-13T22:20:38.736+01:00Both genera belong to the suborder Theropoda, and ...Both genera belong to the suborder Theropoda, and are therefore much more closely related to one another than are the jackal and wombat, which belong to separate infraclasses.Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-3884710095529831322014-06-13T18:45:28.562+01:002014-06-13T18:45:28.562+01:00A few things don't seem right about this accou...A few things don't seem right about this account.<br /><br />Firstly, large dinosaurs of that kind didn't drag their tails, as was implied by the tracks the men found. Even accounting for 65 million years of evolution, I doubt such a trait would evolve, especially since it would damage the tail and make it easy to follow the animal.<br /><br />Second, the tracks shouldn't have ended at a cliff. A theropod dinosaur doesn't strike me as the suicidal type...<br /><br />Finally, how would the priest have known what a Ceratosaurus is? It's 1903, and this is a pretty remote corner of the world we're talking about. Dinosaurs wouldn't be too well known to a priest living in the Yukon.<br /><br />Additionally, your claim that endothermic Arctic dinosaurs seems unlikely considering the fact that Alaska has actually turned up an impressive amount of dinosaur fossils. Believe it or not, in the Late Cretaceous, even the coldest reaches of the Arctic were home to dinosaurs. Additionally, dinosaurs were indeed endotherms, as recent studies have revealed, perhaps even to a greater degree than mammals!<br /><br />Though I find this report as incredible as you do, nonetheless, I like the idea of a living theropod dinosaur roaming the far north...The Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01334704612432869150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-82728934747207021112014-06-13T18:00:15.464+01:002014-06-13T18:00:15.464+01:00Ceratosaurus related to tyrannosaurus? Ehm.... And...Ceratosaurus related to tyrannosaurus? Ehm.... And a golden jackal is equally related to wombat, yes....:)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00523151757801957942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-26420896993546231122014-06-13T14:51:18.753+01:002014-06-13T14:51:18.753+01:00So convenient that they just happened to spot one ...So convenient that they just happened to spot one of the relatively few known species of dinosaurs in 1908. And that it just happened to have the dragging tail reconstructions of the Ceratosaurus at the time featured, but that we know are completely wrong now.Scott Hamiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01239391361895323698noreply@blogger.com