tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post8045527816206664051..comments2024-03-22T21:58:18.933+00:00Comments on ShukerNature: THE STOA, THE SUWA, AND THE WASHORIWE – A TRIO OF PREHISTORIC SURVIVORS FROM THE REAL 'LOST WORLD'?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15628598508836601012noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-61352608371098655492023-08-23T22:33:24.250+01:002023-08-23T22:33:24.250+01:00Thanks very much for your reply!Thanks very much for your reply!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-66927799565517255932023-08-23T16:07:53.303+01:002023-08-23T16:07:53.303+01:00Thanks very much for these interesting findings an...Thanks very much for these interesting findings and insights, which I greatly appreciate your posting here. Speaking of which, here is a link to some more, as posted recently on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/15xexi7/dyscoveries_about_the_kurupira_plateauprehistoric/?rdt=48868Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-38102962640507285012023-08-19T02:09:54.548+01:002023-08-19T02:09:54.548+01:00Hi again!
So, me and another guy researched about ...Hi again!<br />So, me and another guy researched about Kurupira using the google maps and the tepui location using a book that we download, we concluded that:<br />1-Kurupira isn't a tepui, it's just a elevated area that looks like a tepui, but it isn't one, the Kurupira is "Cerro Delgado Chalbaud" and it's proximities.<br />2-We think this proves that Mares wasn't lying , he was just mistaken, since the area does look like a tepui.<br />3-The 3 creatures in your article really do exist in the mythology of the Waiká , we particulary don't believe that Mares was lying about them since everything what he said was confirmed by the maps.<br />4-What is more interesting, is that there is a documentary called " The real lost world", about "Mount Roraima" and it's inspiration for Doyle in writing "The Lost World". In this documentary, a person says that doyle wrote the book based on the stories about monsters who lived close by Mount Roraima, and Roraima is close to Kurupira, so maybe the people who lived in both places contacted each other and shared the stories about the monsters. The name "Stoa" can be the result of this. Here is the documentary:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzi_Wh-l1I4<br />I hope this can clarify some things.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-4985265726203950732022-11-25T14:57:12.259+00:002022-11-25T14:57:12.259+00:00As noted by me in my above article, according to M...As noted by me in my above article, according to Mares the specific location of Kurupira was deliberately hidden from maps etc by the relevant authorities. Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-82747763364538725332022-11-25T14:53:37.161+00:002022-11-25T14:53:37.161+00:00Like you, all I know of these three cryptids came ...Like you, all I know of these three cryptids came from the writings and researches of Mares, who was a famous, well-respected author and investigator in his native Czech Republic. So, again like you, I don't think that he was lying, just someone who had investigated a mystery not previously brought to widespread public attention. His fellow Czech Republic investigator Ivan Mackerle accomplished much the same when bringing the Mongolian death worm to widespread public attention outside its native country.Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-49724088316119627902022-11-25T10:13:31.573+00:002022-11-25T10:13:31.573+00:00Is Kurupira known by any other names? I can't ...Is Kurupira known by any other names? I can't find it on any lists of Tepuis, was it's exact location ever specified?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-4907417290089992522022-08-11T01:41:54.444+01:002022-08-11T01:41:54.444+01:00Interesting, i live in Brazil and i wasn't fam...Interesting, i live in Brazil and i wasn't familiar with these three cryptids until meeting them in this site.<br /> When i research these three cryptids on the internet, i can't find information about them that isn't related to Jaroslav Mares, no matter how hard i try.I'am not saying that i don't trust Mares, just that the Stoa ,Suwa and Washoriwe are legends of difficult to track.<br /> I was also able to download Mares last book about Kurupira and translate it, and it's amazing the level of detail that the author describes, he definitely went to my country, and i don't think that he is lying about Kurupira, he was vey dedicated to it.<br /> Also, do you know if there is information about these cryptids that doesn't mention Mares?<br />Thanks and all the best!<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-19631455288000194662022-01-02T17:50:26.880+00:002022-01-02T17:50:26.880+00:00Yes indeed. I've blogged about some of Fawcett...Yes indeed. I've blogged about some of Fawcett's claimed cryptids elsewhere here on ShukerNature, including his giant anaconda, an unidentified dog-like cat (or cat-like dog?) called the mitla, a two-nosed dog, and a supposedly toothless freshwater shark that if real was more likely to be a giant catfish. All very intriguing. Click Percy Fawcett in the vertical list of entry headings running down the right-hand side of this page to access them quickly.Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-83393364821492435242022-01-02T03:02:34.797+00:002022-01-02T03:02:34.797+00:00I have a much-treasured copy of Fawcett's book...I have a much-treasured copy of Fawcett's book "Exploration Fawcett" which contains a photo of the Tepui that inspired Conan Doyle, and Fawcett's writings include many speculations about what may lurk there. Fawcett also has a first-hand encounter with a gigantic Anaconda and a tribe of savage ape-men. Fawcett was declared a liar when he published these accounts, but since many of his claims have since found out to have factual substance, we shouldn't be too hasty to dismiss his cryptozoological encounters.Martin Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12667331992294612673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-63342357862272086392021-03-11T09:22:27.054+00:002021-03-11T09:22:27.054+00:00I'd be very interested in learning more about ...I'd be very interested in learning more about creatures like the Stoa, especially any archaeological evidence and similar things if they are in north western Peru.Enthnozooarchaeologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00119276203172051568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-73000686268374493072020-09-13T08:25:56.852+01:002020-09-13T08:25:56.852+01:00Interesting how fiction can have something real, a...Interesting how fiction can have something real, as well as The Lost World has its inspiration, also a very famous film also has its cryptozoological inspiration is King Kong from 1933 in which the giant ape that gives its name to this film lives On an island called Skull Island, which within the film is located near Sumatra / Indonesia where curiously sightings of a creature described as a gigantic bipedal orangutan have been reported, which the locals call Orang Gadang was probably the source of inspiration. to create the character of King Kong, but we must also take into account that in the 1933 film as well as in the 2005 remake, Skull Island (not counting its natives) was not only Kong's home, but also it was also inhabited by dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures, from what I ask. In Sumatra / Indonesia are there mythological or cryptid beings similar to dinosaurs or other prehistoric animals? and yes there is. What is the name of those creatures?Lorenzo Barrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11969433046974424673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-82140649022328202102020-07-17T15:10:35.296+01:002020-07-17T15:10:35.296+01:00Hi Oscar, Unfortunately I can't help you regar...Hi Oscar, Unfortunately I can't help you regarding this, as I was sent the relevant sections in translated version by a friend in the Czech Republic who was able to translate the sections into English for me.<br />Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-13190949966816206832020-07-17T03:23:46.349+01:002020-07-17T03:23:46.349+01:00hi my name is oscar and im from mexico, were can i...hi my name is oscar and im from mexico, were can i get the books from jaroslav mares??osacrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00158705695591166688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-65932554174607173002020-05-16T18:24:48.249+01:002020-05-16T18:24:48.249+01:00Mea culpa,I misread Miroslav 'Mirek' Fišm...Mea culpa,I misread Miroslav 'Mirek' Fišmeister for Mareš and thought you got the translation direct from the author. Re-reading my original comment it also sounds like I might be implying I was suspicious of you, which wasn't my intention, I'm suspicious of the story as told by Mareš.strieb_grieblinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17245480996170543211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-39869072845087691082020-05-16T16:51:37.955+01:002020-05-16T16:51:37.955+01:00I'm not in correspondence with Mareš. All of m...I'm not in correspondence with Mareš. All of my information concerning his investigations came from hia books.Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-28875015301969850762020-05-16T08:43:20.697+01:002020-05-16T08:43:20.697+01:00Doesn't Mareš claim to have visited Kurupira o...Doesn't Mareš claim to have visited Kurupira on an expedition though? Surely he could pinpoint the location as you're in correspondence with him. Sounds highly suspicious to me.strieb_grieblinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17245480996170543211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-32673409539335036332018-10-05T18:04:29.586+01:002018-10-05T18:04:29.586+01:00Dinosaurs, UFOs and government cover ups sounds re...Dinosaurs, UFOs and government cover ups sounds really interesting but also very suspicious at the same time Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841120425310456427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-65798317062341291012018-10-04T12:59:35.812+01:002018-10-04T12:59:35.812+01:00According to Mares, and I have no independent corr...According to Mares, and I have no independent corroboration for this, so for me it remains wholly speculative, the Brazilian government has purposefully hidden Kurupira's locality from the general public in recent years by removing it from maps and other sources of information that could pinpoint its position. There have been claims by various investigators that it is linked to UFO/alien activity, etc, all very controversial and scientifically unproven.Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-49272165442690327992018-07-12T06:37:33.486+01:002018-07-12T06:37:33.486+01:00Do you have a location of this plateau because I&#...Do you have a location of this plateau because I've been trying to find information but it's been scarce to say the least and I want to know its location so I can prove it exists as if the plateau exist all the possible dinosaurs that are mentioned could be discovered. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841120425310456427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-48140000238932557182018-05-06T17:01:56.924+01:002018-05-06T17:01:56.924+01:00So there's a actual plateau with a couple spec...So there's a actual plateau with a couple species of post KT dinosaurs such as carnotaurus, why hasn't there been any research or no one has gone up there I mean we have helicopters we don't need to climb up the slopes and why is it i can't find any other information on this kurupia plateau I'd like to know more on it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841120425310456427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-79937432701444107162018-01-18T19:25:32.567+00:002018-01-18T19:25:32.567+00:00Yes indeed it is, and as the stoa's history ha...Yes indeed it is, and as the stoa's history has been much-confused in the past, especially in internet coverages, it was good to be able to uncover the true version at long last and present it here. <br />Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-84949181073029043902018-01-18T14:42:14.010+00:002018-01-18T14:42:14.010+00:00So... it turns out there's a fairly well known...So... it turns out there's a fairly well known real life inspiration for The Lost World... and no-one has recently gone up there looking for dinosaurs?!? Karl my man I'm free most of next week if you want a travel companion. I'll buy a rope and a grapple hook from B & Q and we should be good to go! <br /><br />But seriously this is incredible isn't it? Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-11371834562640315912017-05-14T23:28:28.091+01:002017-05-14T23:28:28.091+01:00Ever consider that this world we exist in is "...Ever consider that this world we exist in is "the lost world" & the tepuis are "normal worlds"? NorthsideRastahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03741081714136423378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-67463672011577115082016-09-11T21:22:49.555+01:002016-09-11T21:22:49.555+01:00"warty-skinned, toad-like reptile, leaping on..."warty-skinned, toad-like reptile, leaping on its hind legs,"<br /><br />Quite irrelevant I suppose, but the inspiration for this appears to have been Charles Knights drawing and descriptions of Laelaps (Dryptosaurus), the descriptions of which included speculation as to a possible kangaroo-like movement, as seen in this drawing from 1897.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Laelops-Charles_Knight-1896.jpgReina Takagawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09017692307332721463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-49639811973813458102016-08-08T23:52:46.075+01:002016-08-08T23:52:46.075+01:00There is a bipedal pseudosuchian found in Northern...There is a bipedal pseudosuchian found in Northern Argentina called Sillosuchus, thought to be 228-235 millions years old. Unfortunately there is no known skull fossil, so we don't know if it had horns. Nor do we know if it looked at all like the crocodiles it was partially named after.Pattockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00741004991950391554noreply@blogger.com