tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post5438978535210900519..comments2024-03-22T21:58:18.933+00:00Comments on ShukerNature: NANDI BEARS AND DEATH BIRDS - MY TOP TEN DEADLIEST MYSTERY BEASTS !!Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15628598508836601012noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-73879897750632050442024-01-22T23:16:25.505+00:002024-01-22T23:16:25.505+00:00Нунда и Мнгва это разные существа сколько их люди ...Нунда и Мнгва это разные существа сколько их люди будут называть одним и тем же ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-55086256766386554212014-03-05T19:00:00.919+00:002014-03-05T19:00:00.919+00:00The Artrellia might be at most a very close relati...The Artrellia might be at most a very close relative of salvadorii because of the dagger-like teeth. Indeed,the teeth of the latter are longer and straighter than those of other goannas whiches are hardly visible.Boshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582184345673934121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-20487054638665637722013-08-06T23:50:14.491+01:002013-08-06T23:50:14.491+01:00Very nice list, the Nandi bear does interest me. I...Very nice list, the Nandi bear does interest me. I'm of the opinion that its a hyena, maybe not an unknown or extinct species but a large oversized version of a known one. James FrielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-74831719718124454232013-01-09T01:43:00.448+00:002013-01-09T01:43:00.448+00:00There is a very detailed chapter on the crowing cr...There is a very detailed chapter on the crowing crested cobra and other crested mystery snakes - the most detailed ever published, in fact - in my book Extraordinary Animals Revisited (2007) - see here for details: http://www.karlshuker.com/revisited.htmDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-84571425491313665182013-01-09T01:29:47.270+00:002013-01-09T01:29:47.270+00:00Crested cobra sounds like similar to many crested ...Crested cobra sounds like similar to many crested giant snakes that legends and people told about here in Mexico. Where can I get more information about it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-71967570220092107642012-10-30T02:43:11.296+00:002012-10-30T02:43:11.296+00:00Over WAHEELA, I would go toward dire wolf instead....Over WAHEELA, I would go toward dire wolf instead. northern species tend to be larger so it could end up being a relyc of northern dire wolf. It would explain the extremely thick tail. for ear, easy. small ear are easier to keep warm in the cold. Dire wolf were solitary and had the same kind of apperence. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09807193846402784299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-80028358944659908892012-10-13T16:50:50.560+01:002012-10-13T16:50:50.560+01:00hello Mr Karl
I'm really interested in the cr...hello Mr Karl<br /><br />I'm really interested in the crested cobra, because I've heard there is cryptid at indonesia that looks like crested cobra.<br /><br />I'm Bahr Arung from indonesiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-86487648258671768862012-09-17T22:50:56.613+01:002012-09-17T22:50:56.613+01:00Hi Laurence,
Both possibilities might apply - blo...Hi Laurence,<br /><br />Both possibilities might apply - blood-drinking birds (reminiscent of the opportunistic behaviour of the so-called vampire finches of Wolf Island in the Galapagos archipelago), and bats such as the unidentified Ethiopian death bird that may or may not be genuinely sanguinivorous.<br /><br />All the best, KarlDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-39864473635161202262012-09-17T22:48:05.629+01:002012-09-17T22:48:05.629+01:00The ancient Romans told stories of blood drinking ...The ancient Romans told stories of blood drinking birds. Could there have been a species of bat or is this a case of the known phenomenon of birds sometimes drinking blood (as, e.g., on islands)?<br /><br />Other than Cuvier's taboo, I don't see any very good reason why amphicyonids and chalicotheres should not be out there.Laurence Crossennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-38201281138751815172012-09-17T20:21:49.090+01:002012-09-17T20:21:49.090+01:00"If de Prorok's account is a truthful one..."If de Prorok's account is a truthful one, then surely the death bird must be a species new to science? After all, there is currently no known species of Old World bat that is a confirmed blood-drinker. This, then, is plainly one plausible answer to the death bird mystery - but it is not the only such answer.<br /> I am exceedingly grateful to the late John Edwards Hill, bat specialist and formerly Principal Scientific Officer at the British Museum (Natural History), who presented me with a great deal of information that offers a completely different outlook upon this perplexing case. It is well known that the New World vampire bats transmit livestock diseases from one animal victim to another, in a manner paralleling the activities of mosquitoes and other sanguinivorous insect vectors. They also carry rabies to man, though this is a much rarer occurrence than the more lurid reports in the popular press would have us believe. Moreover, bats of many species all around the world are known to contract many different types of bacterial, viral, and protozoan diseases, which can be spread to other organisms via parasites such as body lice and ticks that live upon the bats' skin or fur. Relapsing fever in man, for example, is caused by the bacterium Borrelia recurrentis, carried by lice and ticks that have in turn derived it from former rodent or bat hosts.<br /> Accordingly, during communications concerning the death bird, Hill suggested to me that it is possible that humans venturing in or near a cave heavily infested with bats (like Devil's Cave, for instance) would become infected with such diseases - if lice or ticks, dropping from the bats as they flew overhead, bit the unfortunate humans upon which they landed. A parasite-borne infection of this nature would account for the bite-like wounds of the goatherds observed by de Prorok; and, depending upon the precise type of infection, could ultimately give rise to the emaciated condition exhibited by these afflicted persons.<br /> Additionally, native superstition and a deep-rooted fear of bats might be sufficient, when coupled with the distressing effects of a parasite-borne infection, to nurture the belief among such poorly-educated people as these that they were the victims of blood-sucking bats - the notion of vampirism is very ancient and widespread in human cultures worldwide (the Maya of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica even worshipped the vampire bat as a god - Camazotz). <br /> Two other medical explanations for the death bird case were also raised by Hill during our correspondence (though he rated both of these as being less plausible than the likelihood of a parasite-borne disease's involvement), which are as follows.<br /> As Devil's Cave contained large quantities of bat excrement, perhaps these droppings harboured the spores of the soil fungus Histoplasma capsulatum (even though this is more usually associated with bird guano); if inhaled, these spores can cause an infection of the lungs known as histoplasmosis, which can prove fatal (but severe cases are not common).<br /> Alternatively, an illness called Weil's disease also offers some notable parallels with the 'death bird syndrome'. Also referred to as epidemic spirochaetal jaundice and as leptospirosis icterohaemorrhagica, Weil's disease is caused by spirochaete bacteria of the genus Leptospira, and is usually spread by rodents, but the bacteria have been found in a few species of bat too. Infection generally occurs through infected drinking water, and among the ensuing symptoms of contraction is the appearance of small haemorrhages in the skin, which could be mistaken for bites. Also, the accompanying damage to the kidneys and liver, jaundice, and overall malaise experienced by sufferers could explain the goatherds' haggard, wasted form.<br /> Clearly, then, the case of the dreaded death bird and the stricken herders is far from being as straightforward as it seemed on first sight, and may involve any one, or perhaps even more than one, of the above solutions."<br /><br />All the best, KarlDr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-36901706784927798622012-09-17T20:21:32.262+01:002012-09-17T20:21:32.262+01:00Hi Rich,
I'll have a look through my artrelli...Hi Rich,<br /><br />I'll have a look through my artrellia files - I have quite a lot of newspaper clippings regarding it, so you never know!<br /><br />Yes, in the mystery bats chapter of my book The Beasts That Hide From Man (2003), I speculated that one of various diseases may be responsible for the death bird reports and medical outcome. This is what I wrote:<br /><br />[see my next message - too long for a single message here]Dr Karl Shukerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222845702628862829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-75107370637749298212012-09-17T17:08:15.082+01:002012-09-17T17:08:15.082+01:00Hi Karl
Do you have the Australian newspaper clipp...Hi Karl<br />Do you have the Australian newspaper clipping from 1960 that refers to giant dragon-like lizards killing people in PNG and the Australian team that investigated and saw the victim's bodies?<br />I've always wanted more detail on this case and to know what paper it was printed in.<br /><br />As for the deathbirds i've wondered it the victims might have contracted ebola or some kind of disease from pathogens in the cave itself and perfectly normal bats were being blamed.Richard Freemanhttp://www.cfz.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3739684561063978507.post-80339109768181662262012-09-17T15:39:20.687+01:002012-09-17T15:39:20.687+01:00My friend was telling me that there's these ty...My friend was telling me that there's these types of worm bugs that suck your blood when you sleep. Scares the crap out of me. Mikehttp://www.rawhoney.canoreply@blogger.com