Could this very
striking photograph of a large marabou stork standing upright with long beak
open, huge wings held outstretched, and flanked by human figures have
influenced some observers into later believing that they had seen the legendary
thunderbird photograph? (public domain)
One of the most perplexing sagas
in the fascinating chronicles of cryptozoology is the long-running search for
the thunderbird photograph, supposedly missing, presumed lost, for over a
century. Here is an investigation that I conducted quite a while ago with
regard to this mystifying picture, which has never previously been published in
full, but is presented here now as another ShukerNature exclusive.
THE THUNDERBIRD OF TOMBSTONE
According to traditional Native
American Indian lore, thunderbirds were enormous birds of prey that flew
through the skies on immense wings, creating thunder when flapping them
together, and sometimes even abducting unwary humans. Once dismissed as wholly
mythical, many sightings have been made during modern times in the U.S.A., however, notably in the Pacific
West and mid-West states, of unidentified yet seemingly gigantic condor-like or
vulture-like birds soaring high through the skies and even occasionally
encountered perched on the ground, which seem to be veritable 20th/21st-Century
thunderbirds.
However, science needs something
more tangible than eyewitness accounts to consider before accepting the
existence of such astonishing creatures - which is why the thunderbird photograph's
history has attracted such interest.
It all (allegedly) began back in
1886, when an Arizona newspaper called the Tombstone
Epitaph supposedly published a very striking photograph, which depicted a
huge dead pterodactyl-like bird with open beak and enormous outstretched wings,
nailed to a barn and flanked by some men. This bird was reputed to be a
thunderbird, and judging from the size scale provided by the height of the men
standing alongside it, its wingspan appeared to be an awesome 36 ft! In other words, it was three
times greater than that of the wandering albatross Diomedea exulans -
the bird species currently holding the record for the world's biggest
modern-day wingspan.
A wandering
albatross in flight (© J.J. Harrison/Wikipedia; to see more great photos by
J.J. Harrison, please subscribe to his Facebook profile here)
Since then, countless people claim
to have seen this same photo in various magazines published some time during
the 1960s or early 1970s, but no-one can remember precisely where. Those
publications thought to be likely sources of such a picture include Saga,
True, Argosy, and various of the many Western-type magazines in
existence during this period in America, but searches through runs of
these publications have failed to uncover any evidence of it.
Nor has anyone come forward with a
copy of this photo as published elsewhere, and the archives of the Tombstone
Epitaph do not have any copy of it either.
A COUPLE OF HOAXED THUNDERBIRD
PHOTOS
A number of photos claimed to be
this evanescent, iconic image have been aired over the years, especially
online, but these have all been exposed as hoaxes. To keep this section of the
present article in proportion to the rest of it, I'll refrain from documenting
every one of them here (the subject of a future ShukerNature article instead,
perhaps?), and will just confine myself to two representative examples.
The first of these is one that I
was personally able to expose, on behalf of Strange Magazine. Below is
how it was written up and published in the Fall 1995 issue:
How I exposed a fake
thunderbird photo in Strange Magazine (click image to enlarge it for
reading purposes) (© Dr Karl Shuker/Strange Magazine)
The second hoax thunderbird
photograph that I'm documenting here, and which is reproduced below, is of much
more recent occurrence. Of unknown origin, it seemingly first appeared online
in 2011, was rapidly included in numerous websites and blogs devoted to
cryptozoology and to mysterious phenomena in general, and engendered much
bemusement and controversy as to whether or not it was genuine, particularly as
the thunderbird in it was a pterodactyl rather than a bird. Happily, however,
when American student and ardent cryptozoological researcher Jay Cooney saw
it, he realised that it looked familiar to him, so he conducted an internet image
search of pterodactyl models. And sure enough, in one particular online stock-photo
library he succeeded in finding a photograph of a model of the late Jurassic pterosaur
Pterodactylus (click here to see it) that corresponded precisely with the pterodactyl in the supposed thunderbird
photo. The latter's image had been lifted directly from the online stock photo
of the Pterodactylus model. Another alleged thunderbird photograph duly
discredited. Congratulations to Jay for his astute discovery – click here to access his own full coverage of it in his excellent Bizarre Zoology blog.
LOOKING FOR THE LOST WITH A SEARCH
THROUGH SAGA
While researching for my book In Search of Prehistoric Survivors, published in 1995 and containing a large
section dealing with thunderbirds, I decided to conduct some investigations of
my own concerning this elusive picture.
I began them by focusing my
attention upon Saga. This is an American magazine that has published
many cryptozoological articles and illustrations over the years, and was deemed
by longstanding thunderbird photo seekers such as the late W. Ritchie Benedict
and the late Mark Chorvinsky to be a promising source of such a picture.
As there does not appear to be a
complete or even near-complete run of this magazine on file in any British
library, I contacted the Library of Congress in Washington DC, whose research
specialist, Travis Westly, very kindly agreed to search through every Saga
issue published between January 1966 and March 1969 - a likely period during
which this type of photo would have been published in Saga. Alas, no
such picture was present, nor even a mention of any type of gigantic mystery
bird.
THE THUNDERBIRD PHOTO ON
TELEVISION?
Another widely-popularised claim
that I decided to pursue is that a copy of the thunderbird photo was displayed
on television by American cryptozoologist Ivan T. Sanderson during the early
1970s, when appearing as a guest in an episode of the long-running Canadian series
'The Pierre Berton Show'.
Consequently, I contacted the
Audio-Visual Public Service division within the National Archives of Canada, to
enquire whether a copy of the Sanderson episode in this series had been
preserved. Unfortunately, however, I learnt from research assistant Caroline
Forcier Holloway that she had been unable to locate this particular episode,
and needed a precise production or release date for it in order to continue
looking, because there were 597 episodes in this series still in existence,
each of which contained more than one guest. Moreover, there were others that
seemed to have been lost, so there was no guarantee that the episode containing
Sanderson was among the 597 preserved ones anyway.
Ivan T. Sanderson on
the cover of his book Ivan Sanderson's Book of Great Jungles (© Julian Messner)
However, one of my correspondents,
Prof. Terry Matheson, an English professor at Saskatchewan University with a
longstanding interest in the thunderbird photo, claimed in a letter to me of 22
September 1998 that Sanderson appeared on 'The Pierre Berton Show' not in the
early 1970s, but actually no later than the mid-1960s. This is because Prof. Matheson
vividly remembered seeing this episode and talking about it afterwards with a
friend with whom he was working on the Canadian Pacific Railway as a summer
job, and he only worked there from 1965 to 1967. Here is what he wrote:
"The
particular episode of the programme...did not take place in the early 1970s. I
remember watching the segment dealing with the thunderbird - part of an
extended interview Pierre Berton had with Ivan Sanderson - from my home, when I
was an undergraduate student at the University of Winnipeg in
the mid-1960s. By the 1970s I was in graduate school in Edmonton. I
know the programme could not have aired much later than 1965, because I recall
discussing it initially with my mother and grandmother, who had also watched
the show; with college friends, who made me the subject of much good-natured
ridicule; and sometime later with a friend from Calgary whom I had met while
employed on the Canadian Pacific Railway, as I was (over the summer months) from
1965 to 1967. I cannot recall the precise date of this conversation with my
railroad friend, nor can I recollect the date I watched the programme with
pinpoint accuracy, but would guess that it aired the winter before my first
summer on the railroad, that is, 1964-65; at the very latest, the following
year (1965-66). That might be a good place to start."
Prof. Matheson's
confident placing of his well-remembered conversations concerning the above TV
show within the mid-1960s, coupled with his precisely-dated period of
employment on the railway in the 1960s, as well as his undergraduate studies
also occurring exclusively in the 1960s, would certainly seem to disprove
previous assumptions that this particular show was not screened until the early
1970s - unless, perhaps, it was re-screened at that time, following its
original screening in the mid-1960s? However, his letter also contained another
notable challenge to traditional assumptions regarding this show:
"To
the best of my recollection, the photograph was not shown, at least not on this
particular programme. I definitely recall Sanderson's allusions to the
photograph, which he described vividly and with great precision. Although I can
envision Sanderson's description as if it were yesterday - the bird nailed to
the wall of the barn, the men standing in a line spanning the wingspan, etc -
he did not, however, have the photograph in his possession when the interview
took place, although he certainly claimed to have seen it. Incidentally, some
time after this, Sanderson set up a society for the investigation of paranormal
phenomena [SITU - the Society for the Investigation of The Unexplained]. I
joined, and in response to my inquiry about the photograph, was told that they
did not have a copy. Receiving this news led me to wonder at the time if the
photograph might be an example of an urban myth or legend."
If, as would now seem to be the case, the
thunderbird photo was not shown by Sanderson on 'The Pierre Berton Show' after
all, one of the most promising avenues for tracing it - by seeking an existing
copy of this specific show - has gone.
URBAN FOLKLORE, OR FALSE MEMORY
SYNDROME?
Perhaps, therefore, as sceptics have
often suggested, the thunderbird photo has never existed at all, and should
therefore be dismissed as nothing more than an example of urban folklore. Having
said that, there are others, including myself, who wonder whether at least some
of those people who claim to have seen it have actually seen a superficially
similar picture, depicting some large but known species of bird with wings
outstretched, and years later have mis-remembered what they saw, erroneously
believing that they had actually seen the thunderbird photo. Such an event
would be a classic case of false memory syndrome.
Interestingly, one photograph that
could certainly have inspired people to believe that they had seen the genuine
thunderbird photo is one of a large marabou stork held with its beak open and
its massive wings outstretched by some native men, reproduced at the beginning
of this present ShukerNature post and again below. Tellingly, it appeared in a
number of popular books worldwide during the early 1970s, including none other
than the Guinness Book of Records, which at that time was second only to
the Bible as the world's bestselling book, so was certainly seen by a vast
number of people around the globe.
I first proposed the marabou stork
picture as a possible false memory trigger in relation to the real thunderbird
photo (always assuming, of course, that the latter image really does/did
exist!) way back in 1993 - in a letter sent to Bob Rickard at Fortean Times
on 15 February 1993 and in one sent to Mark Chorvinsky at Strange Magazine on
2 July 1993. My letter to Mark was subsequently published by Strange
Magazine in its Fall/Winter 1993 issue (for a comprehensive Strange
Magazine article of mine on this same subject, check out its December 1998
issue) . Here is what I wrote in my letter:
"Numerous people
around the world believe that at one time or another they have seen the
notorious "missing thunderbird photograph," allegedly published
within a Tombstone Epitaph newspaper report in 1886 (see Strange
Magazines #5, 6, 7, 11). In view of its extraordinary elusiveness, however,
in many cases it is much more likely that their assumption is founded upon a
confused, hazily recalled memory of some other, superficially similar picture
instead – i.e. a "lookalike" photograph. A particularly noteworthy
"lookalike" for the missing thunderbird photograph appeared on p. 35
of the British version of the Guinness Book of Records (19th
edition, published in 1972), and is reproduced alongside this letter of mine.
It depicts a large African marabou stork Leptoptilus crumeniferus
standing upright with its extremely large wings (which can yield a wingspan in
excess of 10 ft.) held outstretched by
some native tribesmen flanking it, and with its startlingly pterodactyl-like
beak open wide. This picture thus incorporates a number of features supposedly
present in the thunderbird photograph – a very big bird with a pointed
pterodactyl-like head, and an extremely large wingspan, whose wings are
outstretched, and flanked by various men. Bearing in mind that the photo is a
very old one (possibly dating back to the first half of this century [i.e. the
20th Century]), and also that the Guinness Book of Records is
a worldwide bestseller, and that this photo might well have appeared not only
in the English version but also in many (if not all) of this book's other versions
around the world [as far as I am aware, the same picture layout does indeed appear
in all versions worldwide within any given year], it is evident that countless
people will have seen it over the years, of which some may well have been
unconsciously influenced by its striking (indeed, archetypal) image when
contemplating the issue of the missing thunderbird photograph."
It is not even the only such photo
of a marabou stork in existence either. Below is a second, albeit slightly less
evocative one, which appeared in a book by Richard Tjader entitled The Big
Game of Africa, and published in 1910:
Another photo of a marabou
stork held with wings outstretched, this time from Richard Tjader's book The
Big Game of Africa (public domain)
Returning to Prof. Matheson's
letter to me, he raised an equally thought-provoking but very different point
concerning false memory syndrome and the thunder bird photo:
"Although your
suggestion that people's memories of a similar photograph might have been
confused with that of the thunderbird is entirely possible, as I'm sure you
know, Sanderson was a great raconteur, a man whose verbal gifts could cause
anyone to imagine that they had actually seen something he had only described
in words. Indeed, many years after watching the programme, I met an individual
who had also seen the Berton interview and was initially positive that the
picture had been shown."
Yes indeed, the power of verbal
suggestion. Wars have been instigated as a result of the mesmerising oratory
skills of certain leaders, let alone belief that a picture had been shown on a
television programme when in reality no such appearance had occurred.
Incidentally, the December 1997
issue of Fortean Times not only contained a detailed account of modern-day
thunderbird reports by veteran American cryptozoologist Mark Hall but also
included a succinct account of my suggestion that the marabou stork photo in
the Guinness Book of Records 1972 edition may have influenced some
people in their belief that they had seen the missing thunderbird photo. Deftly
combining our separate contributions to the subject, this issue's front cover duly
sported a breathtaking illustration by artist Steve Kirk of a marabou
stork-inspired thunderbird!
The spectacular marabou
stork-inspired thunderbird artwork gracing the cover of the December 1997 issue
of Fortean Times (© Steve Kirk/Fortean Times)
GOING BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING
OF THE MYSTERY
Elsewhere in his letter, Prof.
Matheson mentioned a line of investigation of his own that he had conducted in
relation to the thunderbird photograph, and highlighted a fascinating and
extremely pertinent fact, but one that seems to have attracted little or no
attention from other investigators. What he did was to go right back to the starting
point of the entire mystery – by writing directly to the Tombstone Epitaph,
and enquiring whether such a picture had indeed ever appeared in their
newspaper:
"In an interesting
reply, they both denied any knowledge of the picture and also pointed out that
the reproduction of photographs in newspapers was at that time – the late
nineteenth century – not common anywhere in North America. In checking our
local newspaper – the Winnipeg Free Press – to see if this was the case,
I found that photographs rarely if ever appeared before the early 1900s,
at least in that newspaper."
So is the thunderbird photograph
fictitious, illusive rather than elusive, nothing more than a fable of our
times, perpetuated into the present day by false memory syndrome – inspired in
turn by visual lookalikes and seductive verbal suggestion?
Or, against all the odds, might it
truly be real? Could there actually be a missing thunderbird photo,
concealed in some old, yellowing magazine somewhere?
Next time that you clean out your
attic and find a pile of dusty mags there, have a look through them before you
throw them out – just in case. You never know what you may discover inside! And
needless to say, if you do find the thunderbird photograph, be sure to contact
me and let me see it!
I wish to dedicate this
ShukerNature blog post to the memory of the late Mark Chorvinsky, the founder
and editor of Strange Magazine and a wonderful friend to me, whose
encouragement, friendship, and support during my formative years as a
cryptozoological researcher and writer boosted my confidence and credibility
enormously. Thank you always, Mark.
For plenty of additional
information concerning putative modern-day thunderbirds, be sure to check out
my book In Search of Prehistoric Survivors.
Pierre Berton died in 2004. He left his papers to McMaster University - http://library.mcmaster.ca/archives/findaids/fonds/b/berton.htm
ReplyDeleteHave you contacted The Professor ( http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/ ). He has Ivan's papers and has been organizing them... Ivan may have had a folder with his clippings on the topic...
ReplyDeleteI remember seeing the elusive photograph many years ago in either a magazine or book. If my memory serves me correctly, the position of the head was like that of the marabou in the second photograph. The wings were outstretched along the wall of the barn it was attached to and it seemed to be huge, probably 40 to 50 feet in width. In the foreground were the men who allegedly shot the animal, giving a better sense of the huge wingspan it had. I also remember that the man in the far left hand side was holding a rifle across his arms, a detail that makes my memory of it seem that much more accurate.
ReplyDeleteWhat struck me as odd was the overall graininess of the reproduction, which indicated to me that the photo was either old or meant to look old. Another thing I remember was that there were no telltale signs of cropping around the "bird", suggestive of a hoax. What I looked for were tiny dots lining the outline of the animal, suggestive of cropping on old magazine or book photos. The impression I got was that this was one of the eeriest photos of a cryptid I have ever seen.
Interesting! Thanks very much for posting such a detailed first-hand account of your sighting here.
DeleteI have seen this photo as well. The word Thunderbird was hand written on the photo as well. It's on the web
DeleteI also remember it was stretched along a wood fence or wall the one thing that stood out from the others was the large feathers .this was in the late seventies in Savannah TN the old south school which burned some many years after closing.don't remember the book but I do remember it had a note under that stated the owner to be one of the men pictured that family resides in tombstone area.
DeleteI remember seeing a photo like this back in the seventies. In a magazine. What makes my memory even more evocative, is that i grew up near Tombstone, and actually went to the Tombstone Arizona school district for the first 6 years of my schooling. I never heard about this story from any of the local legends, even though this whole region is a storied, historic place.
ReplyDeleteAre there any local newspapers other than the Tombstone Epitaph that may have carried such a story back in the late 1880s/early 1890s? If so, it may well be worth going through their early issues, just in case it was in one of these, not the T.E., where the photo appeared.
DeleteThe mining towns of Bisbee, and farming town of Douglas, are nearby, and date to the same era, Bisbee, especially. this was also quite a place. Main street was known as Brewery Gulch. Now an artist colony. That might be the best place to look, since it is nearby. Unfortunately, I don't live in Arizona these days. Wish I knew about this article last week. I was in that area visiting my parents, and could have checked. Darn
DeleteA full list of newspapers from Tombstone can be found here: https://www.loc.gov/newspapers/?c=50&dates=1800-1899&fa=location:tombstone%7Clocation:arizona&sb=title_s&st=list
DeleteOh yes, one of my absolute favorite crypto-related mysteries
ReplyDeleteI'm going to say that the guys with the marabou are NOT likely to be mistakenly remembered as
ReplyDeleteCivil War soldiers,
as many have described as being in the missing photo.
On the contrary: the human mind has a remarkable capacity for "filling in" details that are not actually there. The sight of the very striking marabou stork image may well be more than sufficiently memorable for the viewer, years later, to be convinced that the human figures around it were civil war soldiers rather than African natives. The same phenomenon explains how sightings of inanimate objects have in the past been deemed to be animate mystery cats, man-beasts, ghosts, and all manner of other entities.
DeleteI also remember vividly seeing a picture like this... very old looking picture...grainy, unevenly sepia toned as if from age..four or five men standing in the foreground with a very large bird hung up to the side of a building..
ReplyDeleteBeing fairly young and not as deeply into cryptozoology as some I doubt my memory comes from.previously seen shows or tabloids...
Not saying it couldn't be, just that it also could very well not be, of course the picture could have also been a hoax...but I will definitely look into this.
Even if photos in newspapers weren't common before 1900, weren't "etchings" of photos common? (The only reason that occurred to me is because of the etching of what might have been a photo of the "1897 Airship" in a Chicago paper.) If one of those appeared in the Tombstone Epitaph, it might be a lot less binding than an actual photo, but it would still be something to look for.
ReplyDeleteThere's also been an apparently old photo circulating around of a cowboy who has apparently shot a small Colorado "river dino", but I believe it is considered by many to be a hoax..
ReplyDeleteYes, I've seen that one, intriguing but almost certainly a hoax.
DeleteI've now blogged about the Colorado 'river dinosaur' photo - check it out here: http://karlshuker.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/from-mini-rex-to-moon-cow-unravelling.html
DeleteHere's a fascinating email that I received from a reader on 16 December 2014, who very kindly gave me full permission to quote it here. I have this person's full name on file but they asked me to refer to them only by their initials here. Here is the email, which offers a very interesting potential new source for the thunderbird photo, if the photo in the programme concerned is indeed the real thunderbird photo (always assuming of course that there is one!):
ReplyDelete"Hi there! Reading your article on the thunderbird and thought I would pass along something of interest. I also remember seeing the thunderbird photo in a book, but in the early 80s. It was something I picked up from the local library and the pic was just like the one somebody described in your comments section. Since I have always followed this story, I was really interested in an old photo shown on an episode of Wild West Tech of all places, a show hosted by David Carradine before he died. This photo showed what looked like a pteradactyl, but it was held by KNEELING civil war soldiers, not nailed to a barn. I was fascinated because it looked real so I paid attention. The episode was not about pteradactyls - ha but the photo was stuck in strangely. I cant remember which episode now, sorry, but I did look for a photo credit at the end, there was none. I googled the show to try to see it online and learn more but it was unavailable. I would love to see that pic again and learn of its origin and possible authenticity. The soldiers might also be muddying the waters for others that saw it in contrast to the barn photo. If you look into it and find any info, please share!!!! Thanks, C.F."
Has anyone seen this episode or knows where it can be viewed? Would be excellent to check it out!
Fake photo for the Fox TV show called Freaky Links :
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Newer versions:
http://vividvisuals.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Thunderbird-tombstone-damage-flat-01-539x383.jpg
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/re534c7130.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1z6lP2y.jpg
I'll have more to comment on this at a decent hour.
Lyall
Thanks for your info. The last of those fake thunderbird photos linked by you in your comment is debunked in my article here.
DeleteI also remember a black and white photo taken in the distance of this very same description, minus the kneeling. I saw this photo in a book. However, I dismissed it at the time, thinking that it can't be possible (stupid me). I was and still am interested in all things cryptid/paranormal etc. That's what drew me to that particular book. It was not located in the so called 'weird' section of the library, instead it was in the geographic part, as in stories about US cities. I remember it being about a western state and a title somewhat like Strange things in ____ (state name). I'm thinking that this book is way out of print, that's why it can't be located. As far as when I saw this book, I can only say about 1980's up to 1995. I also have a time travel theory about why this picture no longer appears in books. And to set the record straight, no other picture that I have ever seen about Thunderbirds/pteradons influenced my mind about what I saw (that psych theory is totally false).You might also want to try looking in myth and legend periodicals about this subject.
DeleteI remember seeing this episode of Wild West Tech too! It was the Season 3 Episode 3 one title "The Unexplained" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0748486/) and aired on September 27, 2005.
ReplyDeleteI did a quick online search and couldn't find an online version of it, but the DVD of the episode is available from History Channel at http://shop.history.com/wild-west-tech-the-unexplained-dvd/detail.php?p=69263&v=history_show_wild-west-tech.
-Gina
I spent a pretty good chunk of my time digging up old stories out of newspaper archives. This has always been my favorite crytpo story (more the photo than the creature itself), but the fact that it centers around a photo in a newspaper in 1886 is a pretty good reason to doubt the whole thing. You almost never see photos in papers back then; most didn't have the technology for it. However, drawings and etchings were getting much more common by then, and papers often referred to the drawings as "photographs." This can lead to some confusion, as drawings based on photos were often called "drawings" as well, so sometimes you can read a trial transcript and not be sure if they're talking about a real photo or a drawing. - adam ( http://www.mysteriouschicagoblog.com )
ReplyDeleteMy memory of the photo is from seeing it in an encyclopedia of the unknown at school in the 80s - it's one of the things that got me interested in Fortean phenomena. The encyclopedia came in an edition of about half a dozen books and despite trying to track them down over the years, I have have not managed to find any copies.
ReplyDeleteKarl I am thinking someone should look into Ivan T. Sanderson's archives and personal belongings if they are still around to see if anything turns up.
ReplyDeleteI am sure in the 90's I remember seeing an old Civil War era photo of 5-8 soldiers and the thunderbird somewhere, in a book from either the 80's or 60's but most likely the 70's.
As an Aspie this really puzzles me btw
photo is here ,scroll down 4 posts...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2747267/pg1
Thanks, but that's a hoax photo, which has been debunked elsewhere. There are lots of hoax thunderbird photos out there that have been debunked - perhaps I should prepare a follow-up article and document all of them, as it would be useful to have all the photos and info concerning them together in a single document. All the best, Karl
DeleteRecent research has revealed some startling details, including what has been learned from a missile defense physicist (photo labeled "Ptp"): http://www.c-s-lewis.com/clear-thinking/2017/01/21/validating-a-civil-war-pterosaur-photograph/
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling it was in a readers digest book or something similar, I remember reading it at July granny and grandad's house in the 80's - one of those unexplained mysteries books, I'm not sure whether it was a book or the RD itself, can't really imagine why my grandparents would have an unexplained mysteries book. I do remember it though as I had a fascination and fear of all things weird and used to enjoy reading everything about the unusual, and have been a subscriber of Fortran times for over 20 years now!
ReplyDeleteDo you mean this book...
Deletehttps://archive.org/details/MysteriesOfTheUnexplained/mode/2up
I purchased this years ago in the mid 90's in Englewood, Ohio. Hoping that the Thunderbird is in this book but the Reader's Digest did produce alot of these books. My stepmother was an editor of these as well. Hope it helps.
Sadly, no - I have this book, and it's not in there, but thanks for the suggestion, which I greatly appreciate.
DeleteIn the mid-late 1980s I remember seeing the photograph in a a newly-published (at the time) cryptids book in a Reader's World bookstore around Christmas time (was one of their many "Gift Ideas for the Holidays" offerings). The black-and-white photo I remember showed a large but typical-size bird (in terms of body bulk and head) with an unusually wide wingspan, stretched out and nailed against a barn, with 4 or 5 'cowboys' standing in front of it with their arms out-streteched, touching fingertip to fingertip, to give an idea of the bird's wingspan. Because the wingspan looked SO out of proportion with the bird's body and head, I came to my own conclusion that the 'cowboys' had faked this photo... they'd stretched out the wings of a large but normal bird THEN (cleverly?) attached ANOTHER bird's wings on either end, with 'cowboys' strategically placed in the photo to cover up where the second pair of wings were joined to the dead bird's wings. The photo is VIVID in my mind and I can sketch it today from memory - none of the other pics that sometimes appear on the internet claiming to be this original photo even come close. I remember mentioning the photo to a few friends and other crypto fans once in a while during the 1980s and 1990s... long before there was talk of whether or not the photo even existed. Such a weird 'mystery within a mystery' - still, am confident that if someone researches the titles of cryptozoology / monster books that were published and sold in the U.S. from 1984 - 1989, and could look through each and every one of them, the photo would show up in at least one of them. Happy hunting :-)
ReplyDeleteWell, I wanted it to be real...
ReplyDeleteI remember seeing it (or a facsimile) in a magazine imported from the US when I was young sometime in the 1970s! The story was it came flopping and croaking out of a hole dynamited in some rock to make room for a railway. The men shot it and then put it up against the hut where they ate and rested and stood showing off with it, carrying the weapons they used to carry out the deed. It seemed to be stretched out, it's wings were unnaturally expanded. I remember showing my now late Dad and him drily commenting what marvellous things they can do these days with camera trickery. It's an odd do, people remembering things that never were!
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